087 | Imme Ermgassen | Beyond Moderation with Botivo: Building a Pleasure-First Non-Alcoholic Brand
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087 | Imme Ermgassen | Beyond Moderation with Botivo: Building a Pleasure-First Non-Alcoholic Brand

Summary

In this episode, host Chris Maffeo is joined by Imme Ermgassen from Botivo, who shares insights into building a craft non-alcoholic aperitivo brand that challenges category conventions. Through strategic positioning as a pleasure brand rather than a moderation brand, Botivo has created a unique space in the non-alcoholic category by focusing on craft credentials, hedonistic brand values, and owning specific drinking occasions. The conversation reveals how careful brand building and trade strategy can help create new category opportunities.Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:29 Guest Introduction and Initial Impressions01:22 Deep Dive into Botivo02:16 Brand Philosophy and Market Positioning05:37 Challenges and Strategies in the Non-Alcoholic Market11:35 Consumer Insights and Brand Building19:31 Trade Relationships and Distribution38:04 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com 

In this episode, host Chris Maffeo is joined by Imme Ermgassen from Botivo, who shares insights into building a craft non-alcoholic aperitivo brand that challenges category conventions.


Through strategic positioning as a pleasure brand rather than a moderation brand, Botivo has created a unique space in the non-alcoholic category by focusing on craft credentials, hedonistic brand values, and owning specific drinking occasions.


The conversation reveals how careful brand building and trade strategy can help create new category opportunities.


Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:29 Guest Introduction and Initial Impressions

01:22 Deep Dive into Botivo

02:16 Brand Philosophy and Market Positioning

05:37 Challenges and Strategies in the Non-Alcoholic Market

11:35 Consumer Insights and Brand Building

19:31 Trade Relationships and Distribution

38:04 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans


This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com 

Creators and Guests

Chris Maffeo
Host
Chris Maffeo
Building Bottom-Up Strategies WITH Drinks Leaders Managing Top-Down Expectations | MAFFEO DRINKS Founder & Podcast Host
Imme Ermgassen
Guest
Imme Ermgassen
Co-Founder | Botivo Drinks